![]() And as usual, the real issue gets bumped aside. But you take it to Climate Change, pay rates, and hero worship. That is what any discussion about ‘heroes’ and fireline deaths should be about. They violated so many Fire Orders and Watch Outs to get to where they were killed that the real question should be why did they die for nothing? Plants regrow. Whether fire was influenced by Climate Change or it wasn’t, whether politics played a roll or didn’t, they are dead because of the decision they made that was a bad and wrong decision and one THAT IS TAUGHT to every rookie firefighter that ever gets to the line. But again, you are using their deaths to push a political narrative that really has no bearing on the cause of their deaths. Decisions that may have been contributed to hero think, but not hero actions. I think they died a tragic death of their own making through incredibly bad decisions, as was the case on the 30 mile, and many other fatality fires. No, I do not think the Granite Mountain Shots died a heroic death. I think the real issue is that real conversations about why wildland firefighters die always gets taken over by the politics that force their way in. While I agree the ‘hero’ nomenclature has become over used, I think you understate the actual complexity and over rate your connection and ability to understand it. I prefer to remain on the solid ground of honoring these dead GMHS as one of the many Truth Tellers. They violated their solemn duty to do their best to guarantee the safety and welfare of those they supervised. ![]() Some felt these GMHS supervisors killed their men. 2013, SW Area IHC AAR, one senior HS Supt, during the Integration Phase stated: “This is the final, fatal outcome of a long chain of bad decisions with good outcomes we saw this coming for years ” buttressed by numerous others. I’ve been on numerous YH Fire and GMHS site visits over the years. Indeed, the YHF and GMHS debacle is the biggest cover-up, lie, and whitewash in wildland fire history. Learning “incomplete lessons” guarantees we will continue to maim / kill WFs and FFs for the same reasons. Now with the “no blame, no-fault” FLAs, Learning Reviews feckless means to avoid telling the truth about what happened and why. We got briefed to “establish a conclusion” and then get “facts” to support it. with more than I care to remember, numerous shelter deployments, burnovers, entrapment, and fatalities, including a 1996 shelter deployment. We started our Yarnell Hill Fire Revelations (YHFR) website to research and expose the truths and lies about this epic debacle. ![]() In 2013 I made a lifelong commitment to delve into the YH Fire and GMHS debacle. ![]()
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